Straight answers
Frequently asked questions
Everything people ask us before, during, and after an install — answered the way we'd answer standing in your driveway. If your question isn't here, call or text 952-900-2733 and a person will answer it.
Living With It
The everyday questions — energy, upkeep, bugs, who can control it, and where we work.
What areas does Gray Duck Lighting service?
The Twin Cities metro. We install from Minneapolis, St. Paul, Edina out to the western lakes communities, Woodbury on the east, Blaine to the north, and Lakeville to the south. If you're not sure whether we reach you, call or text 952-900-2733 — if we can't serve you well, we'll say so instead of charging you a windshield-time premium.
Will permanent lights raise my electric bill?
Not noticeably. Each fixture draws about one watt, so a whole-house system running a few hours a night uses roughly what a handful of ordinary light bulbs would — a few dollars a month, not a number you'll find yourself watching. LEDs are most of why permanent lighting makes sense at all: the light output per watt is what lets a system this bright run this cheap.
Where do the controller and wiring go?
Usually in the garage, where there's an outlet and a solid Wi-Fi signal. The controller is a small sealed box; we mount it out of the way and run the wiring so you don't see it. No electrician is needed — the system plugs into a standard outlet — and if your preferred spot is somewhere else, we can usually accommodate it.
Can I create my own colors and scenes?
Yes. The app ships with a large library of preset scenes, and the custom editor lets you build your own from 16 million colors — save them, name them, schedule them by date. Each controller supports 8 independent zones, so the front peak, the garage line, and the porch can each run something different at the same time.
Can my spouse and kids control the lights too?
Yes — everyone in the household can have the app on their own phone with access to the same system. Larger homes that need more than one controller can link up to four controllers under a single account, so the whole house still behaves as one system.
Do the lights attract bugs?
Far fewer than traditional bulbs. Insects navigate toward ultraviolet light, and LEDs emit almost none — so while no outdoor light is invisible to a June bug, a permanent LED system draws noticeably fewer insects than the incandescent floods and porch lights it usually replaces.
Will birds or wasps nest in the track?
The track doesn't give them anywhere to go. It's a low-profile aluminum channel fastened tight to the fascia — there's no open cavity like a gutter or a soffit gap. Wasps will test any surface on a house, but the track itself doesn't create a nesting spot, and in practice this is a non-issue we're asked about far more often than we ever see it.
Do you install on commercial buildings?
Yes. Storefronts, restaurants, and office rooflines are a natural fit — year-round brand colors, holiday scenes without a lift rental every November, and scheduling that runs itself. Commercial rooflines are usually longer and simpler than residential ones, so the quote process is the same: we measure, you decide.
What maintenance does the system need?
Almost none — that's the point of buying it once. There's nothing to take down, re-hang, or store, and the fixtures are sealed against weather. Over a couple of decades of use, expect an occasional service visit, the same as any hardworking system on your house. When that day comes, you call the local crew that installed it, not a national ticket queue.
What warranty comes with the system?
Five years on parts and one year on labor, backed locally by Gray Duck Lighting — plus our own warranty on the installation work itself. No registration paperwork; coverage is active when the job is paid for. If something isn't right, call or text 952-900-2733 and the crew that installed your system handles it.
The System
What the hardware is, what it does, and whether you'll see it in July.
Can you see the lights during the day?
Barely. The track is color-matched to your fascia or trim and tucks under the roof edge, so from the street it reads as a shadow line. Most homeowners tell us their neighbors do not notice anything until the lights come on.
Will permanent lights survive a Minnesota winter?
Yes — that is the whole reason the system exists here. The fixtures are sealed and rated for outdoor use through freeze-thaw cycles, ice, and summer heat. We install with Minnesota in mind: the track is fastened to handle ice loading and expansion, and the wiring is run so meltwater has somewhere to go.
What can the lights actually do?
Every fixture is individually addressable, with 16 million colors and adjustable warm-to-cool white. From your phone you can run warm white for everyday curb appeal, set holiday scenes, sync to music, schedule by sunset, and control zones independently. Most people use warm white most nights and save the color for holidays and game days.
Who makes the system you install?
We install Bosso Smart Lighting. We looked at several manufacturers and chose Bosso for the fixture quality and, honestly, for the app — you will interact with the app far more than the hardware, and a bad app ruins a good lighting system.
Cost & Quotes
What it costs, why teaser prices mislead, and how to compare quotes.
How much does permanent outdoor lighting cost in Minneapolis?
Most Twin Cities homes run $6,000–$8,500 installed, which works out to $34–$36 per linear foot of roofline. The average home we light has about 215 feet of covered roofline. Price moves with three things: how many feet you cover, how many stories the crew has to reach, and how complex the roofline is. A single-story rambler with a simple front gable lands near the bottom of that range. A two-story with dormers, multiple peaks, and a wraparound covers more feet and takes longer, so it lands higher.
Why do some companies advertise permanent lighting starting at $2,995?
A price like that usually buys 85–100 feet — enough for the front of a small single-story home, not a whole house. It is a real number for a small job, but most homes need more than double that footage, so the quote you actually receive is rarely the advertised one. We publish per-foot pricing instead of a starting price so you can measure your own roofline and know roughly where you will land before anyone knocks on your door.
Do you require a deposit?
Yes. We collect 50% at signing and the balance when the system is installed and you have seen it working. The deposit covers your materials, which are ordered specifically for your home.
How does your price compare to Trimlight or JellyFish quotes?
Directly, where the other brands let you check: Trimlight publishes $18–35 per foot nationally — a wide range because it varies by dealer and market — and JellyFish publishes no pricing at all (quotes are in-home only). Our $34–$36 per foot is the going rate for a professionally installed RGBW system in the Twin Cities. When you compare quotes, compare two things: the per-foot rate written on the proposal, and what the install includes — surge protection, ice-rated fastening, and who services it are where cheap quotes usually got cheap.
Installation
How long it takes, what we need from you, and winter honesty.
How long does installation take?
Most homes are finished in one day. Larger or more complex rooflines run into a second day. We tell you which one you are before we start, not after.
Do I need an electrician?
No. The system plugs into a standard exterior outlet. If your home does not have an outlet where the controller needs to live, we will flag it during the estimate so there are no surprises on install day.
Can you install in the winter?
Sometimes. We install through December when weather allows, and we are honest about when it does not — hanging track on an ice-covered fascia is how installers get hurt and how jobs get done badly. If we cannot do it right, we will schedule you for the spring and tell you that up front.
What happens if something stops working?
You call us and we come out. The fixtures carry a manufacturer warranty and our installation is warrantied by us. Service calls go to the same crew that did your install.
Go deeper
Some topics deserve more than a paragraph. These pages carry the full answers — and their own FAQs.
Permanent Christmas Lights
Holiday-specific questions — brightness, HOAs, when to book.
Pricing
The full cost breakdown and what moves the number.
Brand Comparison
Bosso vs. Trimlight, JellyFish, Gemstone, EverLights, and Govee — verified specs.
Bosso Smart Lighting
Who makes our system and why we chose it.
The App
Scenes, schedules, zones, and voice control.
Failing System?
Honest options when your current lights — or installer — quit.
Free design consultation
Let's see what your house looks like lit
We'll measure your roofline, show you the options, and give you a real number. No pressure, no all-night pitch.
